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With a job that likely sucked far harder than his. Box truck totally makes better sense. What he needs mostly is a place to sack out. I think a box truck would be less depressing. A Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat of mine does that in Australia and no longer has a permanent address. Because they work 3 PPass on 1 week off, paying rent on an apartment in Perth for 1 week a month was not worth it.

Its not a conventional life but its definitely not as "not really daitng as some on this thread are making out. He'll probably do it for a year or so and then get bored of it. Actually do people in the US never do flat shares?

As a European it's always weird to read the housing threads.

In my town it's typical for a young person to live in sq ft. I had sq ft until I turned Living in an RV is something that only construction workers do, and living without a toilet or proper heating is called a summer cabin. I rented a room in a group house when I was his age. It came with electricity and access to a bathroom. I went out with my friends and didn't have to stop drinking at 7: I didn't have to take a crap at work.

I love when rich people show us how easy it is to be poor. The thing that seems the most contemporary something about this is that you decide to do something that's quasi-legal or maybe illegal and then you put it all over the internet, presumably to build your personal brand. I expect what happens is that he'll get tired of this and either datng into a shared apartment or, more probably, get an RV or some better van-like thing.

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I also think about how awkward the van situation would be if you had stomach flu. Or, hell, if you were disabled in any way. Or if you datting a woman with heavy periods, for that matter - not totally unmanageable, of course, but "I'll spend my nights in a place with no running water" wouldn't be especially fun. Also, "I live in very little space" is not Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat moral statement.

Wont be impressive until he rents out half the truck and can live there for free with all his costs covered. If he rigged up a loft bed type situation, he could rent the truck to professional movers In the daytime. I am no fan of the techie lifestyle and all that entails, but there is a weird moral purity at work in this thread that makes me sad.

Person-Guy is ten times more efficient than you. That's exactly what I'm thinking. I Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat four months in interior Alaska in what was essentially a Tuff Shed. There was electricity by way of a VERY long extension cord leeching power from a nearby cabin, but there was no running water. There were restaurants and activities and fancy coffee and stuff in the neighboring town.

I would have loved to have stayed for a year or two. The great advantage I had was time. Lots of people in that region don't have running water and live similarly year round, although in cabins fortified for the weather. It's not for everyone, sure, but for Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat who love living in that area, it works.

I'd cut a window into the truck, though, maybe get some cross-ventilation. There's no question that this highlights a bunch of weird problems with modernity; underused parking spaces in a city with skyrocketing rent, zoning laws, inequality, student loans, Valley-culture eccentricities, there are a bunch of as 2N notes correctly, super-hotbutton-for-MeFi issues that seem to focus to a point here, but this guy isn't claiming sating Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat solving the world's problems or peddling some spiritual insight.

There's lots of ways to live, and a dude living in a cube van for the time being is one of them. In my 20s I went through a few stretches where I slept in the back of my Volvo as a Paes measure which is to say, I Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat homeless for short periods while transitioning between low-cost living situations, or, more to the point, I was briefly homeless.

And, yes, vhat big difference here Psss to be that I did so by parking in inconspicuous locations like the gated parking lot behind my workplace, covering myself up with flattened cardboard boxes and leaving before dawn.

Wow, I think that's really overblown. Between the time I graduated from college and age 25 I worked for an outdoor environmental education school. It was residential, so I lived on site in a building provided for housing with the other staff, and Monday to Friday all of Chat with horny cougars in Princeton Junction New Jersey meals Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat supplied by the site kitchen, while we worked 7: Not only did this not harm my life skills, it enhanced them: I did not have a "home" during this time other than my parents' and never owned more stuff than could fit into one small carload and that included a guitar and the large amount of outdoor gear I needed for the job.

I Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat feel this is exactly what I should have done with my early 20s and wish more people got the chance. These guys appear to live in the back of a truck and their Illinoid skills are beyond awesome. The bastard's taking up two parking spaces. It's more just that this sounds to me like a Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat unpleasant way to live. That could just be me: I don't datinf a lot of space I live in a pretty small Illinoosbut I do need a lot of privacy, and this guy's life seems to lack that entirely.

But he does not need to pay attention to my disapproval.

Lots of people I know think that my housing situation sounds awful, and we manage to coexist anyway. But I do think Saw you today at the annual meeting something a little irksome Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat the fact that this guy is presenting living in your truck as a lifestyle choice.

Many people in the US live in their cars or trucks, and for most of them it is not voluntary. They don't have the luxury of having all their needs taken care of by their employer, of not really needing to worry about the cops, or of knowing that they could get housing tomorrow if they got tired of it. So yeah, you're going to annoy some people if you act like homelessness is a cool new way of saving money.

If you can't handle that, you probably shouldn't blog or Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat with reporters writing lifestyle pieces.

At least he has a box! As demonstrated in-thread, it's mostly a rhetorical weapon at this point. Maybe you could find a bunk bed in a shared bedroom for cheaper? Illlinois don't think what this dude is doing is very widely applicable, but the vast majority of single people I know already have at least one roommate in the Bay Area, even the relatively wealthy young programmers.

In fairness, none of those except maybe the weekends off apply to someone having cooking and janitorial services provided by lower-paid Google employees. I'm not criticizing -- I'd love to work Pasz that provided three Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat meals a day, plus all the other amenities, but there is minimal overlap between a NOLS-type environment and Google aside from the no-cooking part.

From this thread, it's impossible to tell where the line of acceptable behavior Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat "lifestyle choices" is supposed to be when Illinoiw are a young professional.

Is it datting in a studio when you can afford a 1-bdrm? Is it having roommates? Is it having 11 roommates? Is it living at your parents'? Is it just simply down to having a place that you can bring a date home? I do think there's something a little irksome about the fact that this guy is presenting living in your truck as a lifestyle choice.

Are you annoyed by people who walk to work by choice? Do people who buy a house with less square footage than they can afford irk you? Do people who blog about lifting weights offend you on behalf of people who do manual labor?

From my impression, he's presenting it as his current lifestyle choice. I don't see how he's advocating for you to do the same.

Now the guy in the links from the last part, who is not the young'un in the first original story, yes, he is trying to sell you his lifestyle. I'm actually a little surprised he bothers with the truck Illinoi all. It had pods dedicated to naps, which my tour guide was deeply apologetic that he couldn't show me because they were both occupied. I made some sort of off-the-cuff quip about Google doing this to encourage employees to work late datimg that they just sleep there because the subway shuts down, and he got real quiet for a minute.

At the point where your makeshift parking lot box truck bedroom doesn't have running water, I don't think you're taking much of a step down by resigning yourself to sleeping in the Google Pod. The ONLY convenience he does not have is he can't walk there nude. That's the dealbreaker for me. I couldn't bear to not prance about my living room naked. Think seriously about how workable this situation would be for someone who menstruates.

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There are more comfortable ways to do it than living in a box truck, but good for him for giving it a try and apparently enjoying it. I have actually considered doing it currently, since I am spending so much time on remote field work; I could park an RV or tiny house or whatever at work and use Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat sadly rather appallingly dirty shop shower and washing machine. We get severe winters here, though, and the idea Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat shivering inside of a small, underinsulated RV doesn't appeal, nor does coming back from a long day and dealing with frozen water tanks and similar issues.

The financial break even point would depend on how nakec you paid and what you could sell it for later, along with any maintenance issues, but it wouldn't be as simple as just adding up the rent during that time.

I choose to rent a really small Naughty wife want sex Thermopolis in part so I can live close enough to work to walk, so no, those people don't irk me. I am those people. I try to be mindful of that when I talk about my choices, because they are choices, and they might seem really different to people who have more constraints.

But also, there's nothing illegal about living in a small apartment and walking to work. My city is not consumed with discussion about what to do about the problem of small-apartment-living people, and nobody talks about how pedestrians are driving people away from downtown and ought to be forced to go elsewhere. Homeless people, when they are not voluntary and privileged, are treated as criminals and deviants.

This dude sees himself as thrifty and knows that nothing bad will happen to him if he gets caught. The difference is privilege. It's a really clear example of privilege, it seems to me. I've accepted the fact that I'm going to be celibate for the next who knows how long. From one point of view, everything Free webcam chat or phone friend flirting to parenthood is an involuntary, time-intensive hobby you get signed up for at puberty, a big block of time that you can't use for other things.

Altto, yes, but on the other hand menstruation happened for eons, and I want a beautiful sexy hot woman tonight happens, in places where the majority of households do not have running water.

Or on backpacking trips, etc. This guy is camping, in a truck. The problem is not that he's doing it just for kicks, the Illiois is that if this is seen as a clever and acceptable answer to the inability to pay rent where there's jobs while servicing educational debt, soon people won't be doing it just for kicks.

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I mean, if you want to see some fucking life skillsdatinng could talk to some of my friends who have been street-homeless over the years.

Do you want to know how to keep your feet from freezing when you're sleeping outside in the middle of a Minnesota winter? Do you want to know how to keep your tent from being washed away in a storm?

What about keeping a fire going all day without much smoke in an urban area so that you can build it up again at night? What about living in a semi-converted garage? How do Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat stay warm enough? There too you have to handle the peeing-at-night problem Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat the no running water and the illegality. Also, I'm worried about normalization. You have square feet of overpriced rental!

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I'm saying that popular discourse about space and objects is the product of more than just "wow, cool design! Ironically, this is very close to how my mother has her truck. For Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat last few years, she's had two jobs, both several hours from her home, working just over minimum wage at old peoples nursing homes, so she sleeps in the bed in her truck before her shift. Her actual house is an uninsulated warehouse that Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat a toilet but no shower.

She signed up to a local gym and uses one there. She could be in a house, but she prefers the Warehouse. Combination of factors, she likes the open space mild claustrophobiaand has trouble setting boundaries with her friends who are even less financially stable than she is, so I think fears that she would have even more people crashing with her than she Wives want hot sex Lovettsville she had a woman and her two children staying with her for a month, without contributing a cent to expenses.

However, that is not the case now. Well, Arthritis in her feet as well as RSI in her wrists, means that medically she's not up to the heavy lifting involved many people in old peoples homes are immobile, and have to be moved from bed, to wheelchair, to toilet, to shower, multiple times a day.

So, she has a part-time job at a nearby stables, which worries me just as much. I don't think a day individually digging and removing stones from the racing track the horses exercise on is any good for her health either, but I can't think of any better options.

Pretty much my life is just a struggle of trying to get into a better place myself, and trying to make sure I have options. Ideally, to even be in a position to be able to support my mother more I'm thinking a granny-housetruck. Anyway, point Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat, if I was in his situation, I would totally be doing the same thing. I've considered the same thing, but I don't even have a full license yet. That I think, is the main reason I want a full license.

If you have a van, you always know you'll have a roof over your head. He's establishing some financial security for himself, he's Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat to be fine. He might be from a wealthy background, and just absolutely gaming the system, but he might also be from a poorer background, the sort of person who has seen people living in situations like this, and seen it work. That truck is a lot more stealth than an RV.

And really, he has a full sized bed in there? He will be able to get laid. He can go to house parties and not even have to commute home Beautiful housewives wants sex East Peoria - just go out to his truck and sleep! He could make the truck much more habitable. I have a 24' box truck that I built out to use for burning man every year.

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I have two 55 gallon water storage tanks, and a solar powered water pump which feeds the attached outdoor shower head and the commercial kitchen sized three basin sink. All of this equipment takes up just the first 8 feet of the truck, leaving about 16 feet by 8 feet of open space beyond the food prep area. For the playa, this area is mostly filled with pantry shelves storing food and a folding table and chairs in case of inclement weather we used it a lot during this years dust stormsbut that area could easily be a desk area or small couch area and a sleeping area behind it.

Oh, and the best part, for burning man, anyway, is the last 30" of the truck is set up and partitioned off with insulated walls to hold two camping toilets. These things are great. They are battery operated flush, they don't stink at all, and if only one person is using them you can go Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat over a week and closer to two weeks without emptying the easy to empty portable tanks.

The toilet areas are separated and are completely walled off from the kitchen area, and it is entered via the rear opening of the truck whereas Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat kitchen is entered from a door I installed in the side of the truck.

I was interested to see what mods for easy living he did to his truck and like others, I was disappointed that it's pretty much just a bed in a truck. He could have easily spent half as much on the truck, box trucks get very cheap very fast, and because places like Uhaul and Ryder update their fleets on a regular basis, supply is plentiful. He doesn't need it for driving cross country so Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat it should be in good shape engine wise, a high mileage vehicle is Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat a killer especially if he knows to look for a Ford 7.

Insulating is easy and worth the effort and Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat. You can find a local guy to do it, or even do it yourself relatively easily using basic framing and high density rigid insulation and then facing it with a thinner plywood. It's like a weekends worth of project. For the money he saved making a smarter truck buy, he could have dropped it off for a few days at an RV place and had them install a black water tank underneath it, and hook up a toilet and shower to it.

Going to an RV dump site once or twice a month seems a small price to pay for being able to eat past 7: Small propane appliances for a basic kitchen if he wanted it and maybe even a heater, and the rest living space set up as he desired. And actually, if you read up on things that keep women oppressedone of the big ones is needing to manage menstruation without easy access to running water.

Also, even if, say, indigenous women in a particular community lived happily without in-home running water, that's because their society is set up to accommodate that. Our society - especially in terms of work and cleanliness norms - is set up on the assumption that you can easily wash both your clothes and yourself, and that you can be absolutely dead-on discrete about it.

I'm a little bloodied this morning because I have not yet had a chance to wash my bike-to-work clothes and I bled through last night" isn't socially acceptable. You people really have to take a dump right after you eat? I think there is a lot of similarity in the rejection of the maintenance of an apartment and the Swinger cry free sex of stuff you need in an apartment and the freedom to travel widely on time off.

Is he perpetuating that privilege, or gloating about it somehow? It doesn't seem so to me. You're careful about how you talk about your privileged walking-to-work habit.

What about his blogging is inattentive to that concern? Should people not blog about how they manage to bike to work, their methods and experiences of doing Colorado Springs ca asian females, because they aren't doing so out of necessity? Lester, a Polish man in his 50's to 70's On a Ladies wanna sex in harrisburg Lester sounds like the most un-Polish name imaginable, until one makes the leap of it being a way of avoiding trying to teach Anglophones to pronounce Leszek or something over and over.

I wonder what proportion of people named with these idiosyncratically all-American names like Lester originally got them as English-pronounceable stand-ins for cumbersomely exotic names.

I think a lot of the old-Jewish-guy names like Sheldon and Manny would fall in this category as well. And actually, if you read up on Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat that keep women oppressed, one of the big ones is needing to manage menstruation without easy access to running water.

I agree, in the general case. In this specific case, it seems to me like a female Googler who wanted to make a go of this wouldn't be that much worse off than this guy because of menstruation, given the same access to the proximate Google facilities.

I'm sort of reluctant to agree to the idea that men are Lady wants sex CA Yountville 94599 better at camping, it seems a short distance from the ridiculous arguments made against having women in infantry squads, for instance. The real privilege here is the free use of Google's facilities and lot, it seems to me. That's how you get away with this without offending social norms re: I wonder what proportion of people named with these idiosyncratically all-American names like Lester originally got them as English-pronounceable Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat for cumbersomely exotic names acb, the helpful man at the table Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat front of the long line at Ellis Island even did it for them, some of the time Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat by thelonius at 7: There are a couple points to make here.

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Second, by embracing these hardships voluntarily, he will be better able to appreciate more conventional lifestyles of material wealth that most here seem to follow. If he is forced into living in these circumstances involuntarily, he will be better prepared for that, too. It is honestly pretty weird to see the amount of hate lavished on this Hsv black female only attracted to white male here, especially the privilege arguments.

There are plenty of people working in SV who make way more money than him several of them are even posting in this thread and yet nobody here seems to have it out for them. The only difference that I can discern Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat that they probably live more expensive, conventional lifestyles. One of the things I've learned by cohabitating is that pooping norms are indeed a land of contrasts.

You might be surprised. The analogy to work camps is apt. He's 23, he can tolerate a lot. He doesn't really give a damn about work-life balance, or rather he does, but that's something for when he settles down a decade or so from now. This is very much a future value strategy.

He's young now, living like a hobo isn't that big a deal to him. His real problem is that there isn't low-cost, minimal housing. Conditions were never more than spartan, the main difference being access to a toilet and a washbasin. Google could provide them, probably some HR person is pondering a housing spreadsheet right now, but they've chosen Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat to for whatever reason. Doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. Given that, his choices make a lot of sense.

And of course he chose a panel truck. It's the only way to keep from being caught. Though I might have chosen a white-panel van instead: I will tell you something about camping as an AFAB person: I imagine this is changing as new birth control methods which eliminate periods become available, but that applies only to those women who can and want to use those methods, not to women who are trying to get pregnant or who can't use them.

One can either discretely nudge folks to plan trips at a time when it won't Wife seeking hot sex MI Riga 49276 a problem, or discretely manage the whole thing while camping. Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat women have light, short periods; others don't.

In terms of women being in infantry squads, etc: If you're talking about a couple of days during active military engagement - or a very short camping trip! It's the perpetually-camping thing that's difficult for at least some women. The renaming came later, driven by social pressure to fit in and reinvent oneself as an American. Yeah, but that's the point, right? The guy in question took the absolute least-effort, least-imagination route to saving a big chunk of money, given the advantages he had as a Google employee no-question access to company showers, bathrooms, Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat snack areas, as well as a place to park his Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat where it wouldn't be towed away in a couple days as it would Girls Huntington Indiana fuck date about anywhere else.

I mean, dude didn't even tape up Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat poster on the wall of his truck bedroom, just left the wooden rails and scuff marks as they were. I can only assume he's someone whose aesthetic needs are extremely minimal. And, don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with that, it's just not how most of us would be able to live.

Is he perpetuating that privilege, He's leveraging it, the same way students in Hot women wants real sex Milwaukee apartments do.

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He has the privilege to stop at anytime. But I don't see wanting to save money as an abuse of that privilege. He's not greatly externalizing Alto Pass Illinois dating naked chat to others, for example. He won't be living in that truck for much longer. Fair Psss, and good to remember for considerate planning! The camping trip is six to eight hours long?

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